Two-Story Tear-Off and Re-Deck in Duration COOL Mountain Side
November 2024 · Anaheim
A two-layer tear-off of comp over wood shake on a two-story Anaheim home. We sheeted the pool before the first shingle came off, re-decked 2,941 sq ft in half-inch OSB, then installed Duration COOL in Mountain Side.
Tear-off, full re-deck, fascia, drip edge, ridge vents, re-roof
About this project
He wrote three things on the contract. None of them were about the roof.
There is a box at the bottom of our roofing addendum labeled Special Instructions. Most of the time it comes back empty, or it says something like 'gate code 4412.'
On this Anaheim job the homeowner filled it in himself. Three lines, in his handwriting. Not one of them is about shingles.
What he wrote in the Special Instructions box
Be careful with dogs & careful with pool
Please tarp pool
Remove antenna/satellite off roof
He had dogs. He had a pool. He had a satellite dish on the roof that had not pointed at anything in a long time. Nothing about wind rating. Nothing about granule loss. Nothing about how long the shingle would last.
He was not worried about the roof. He was worried about everything under it.
Which is fair, because a tear-off is a demolition job. Two layers of roofing, the original wood shake included, plus every nail that ever held either one down, all of it coming off a roof that hangs over a swimming pool.
You can rake a lawn. You can hose a patio. A pool is different. One good handful of shake and grit goes in and you are not cleaning it, you are draining it.
Before tear-off:pool sheeted end to end, patio furniture tarped, windows masked, garage roof already stripped.
So the pool went under plastic before the first shingle came off. The furniture got tarped. The windows got masked with plastic and tape. And the crew went into the garage with the homeowner and covered what was in there, because the garage roof was coming off too, and a garage with an open deck over it is just a room with weather in it.
You can sweep a lawn. You can't sweep a pool. One shingle goes in and it's not a cleanup, it's a drain and a refill, and that's on us. So the pool gets covered before anybody touches the roof, not after.
Leonardo · Project Manager
The dogs were the other line, and they are the one most crews would have read straight past. A tear-off is loud. Gates open and close all day. Strangers are on the house from seven in the morning. A dog that gets out on day one turns a roof job into the worst week of somebody's life.
It went on the addendum because things on the addendum get read at the morning meeting. Things said in the driveway get forgotten by lunch.
And the dish came off. Line seven: Satellite/Antenna, Remove, circled. An old dish is a set of bolts driven through a roof deck, and every one of those holes is somewhere water can find later. It is the smallest thing on his list and the easiest one to leave for another day. It came off with the roof.
Then, with the pool under plastic and the dogs accounted for, we got to the part he had not asked about.
The roof measured 2,941 square feet across four planes, 1,170 of it on the second story. Tear-off started Monday, October 28. Under the composition shingle sat the home's original wood shake, and under that, skip sheathing: spaced boards with a deliberate gap between every one, the way shake roofs were built so the wood could breathe.
That deck had to go, all of it. We wrote about why at length on our Orange re-deck project, because it is the same story in most Orange County homes of this era. The short version: composition shingle needs continuous wood behind it, and a gap is not wood.
The crew sheathed the house in half-inch OSB across October 29 and 30, running 264 linear feet of new 1x8 shiplap along the way. By the thirtieth the roof was completely re-sheeted.
And there was more wood than the contract allowed for.
There always might be. That is the nature of a roof. An estimator prices what he can see, and what he can see is the surface. The contract allowed 100 linear feet of roof deck and 50 linear feet of starter board and fascia. The deck wanted more than that, and once the homeowner could see the fascia with the roof off, he wanted more of that replaced too.
Here is the part that matters. The rate was already printed on the contract he signed on October 16, in the wood replacement notice: sixteen dollars per linear foot. When the additional 152 feet went in on November 1, the change order was written at sixteen dollars a foot. Not renegotiated. Not marked up because we were already on the roof and he had no leverage. The same number he had been looking at since the day he signed.
The price of the extra wood was printed before we found it
The wood replacement rate is set in the addendum at $16 per linear foot, and the homeowner signed it on October 16. The change order for 152 additional linear feet was written at that same rate and signed on November 1.
Nobody likes a change order. Everybody hates a surprise. You can't know what's under a roof until the old one's in the dumpster, so the least you can do is tell a guy what it costs before you go up there.
Leonardo · Project Manager
The city of Anaheim passed the deck inspection on October 31, before anything went over it. Then the roof got built up in order: new white two-inch drip edge, WeatherLock self-sealing membrane, synthetic underlayment across the field, starter strip around the perimeter, and then shingle.
Owens Corning Duration COOL, Mountain Side
Deck Defense underlayment
WeatherLock membrane
Half-inch OSB decking
1x8 shiplap
Starter strip
Ridge vents
2" white drip edge
The shingle is Duration COOL in Mountain Side, a solar-reflective gray with a light speckle that sits cool against brown stucco instead of fighting it. The addendum names it, and names Midnight as the fallback if Mountain Side could not be had. It could.
Ridge vents run the peaks. Every roof jack and cap on the house was replaced and painted to match the field, which is why the finished aerials read as one surface with almost no hardware in them.
264Ft of shiplap
152Ft of extra wood
6Working days
Six working days from tear-off to finish, October 28 to November 2. The city passed final inspection on November 6. We walked the job with the homeowner on November 21.
The pool never got drained.
This is the residential roofing work we do across Orange County, where comp laid over original wood shake is close to the default in homes of this era. We have torn off and re-decked the same roof in Yorba Linda, Villa Park, and Orange. If you have a pool under yours, ask whoever you are thinking of hiring what happens to it on tear-off day. The answer tells you most of what you need to know.
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It should be covered before the tear-off starts, not cleaned up afterward. Pulling an old roof off sends granules, nail fragments, and pieces of the old material over every edge of the house, and a pool that takes that in usually has to be drained and refilled rather than skimmed. Ask any contractor you are considering how they plan to protect it, and get the answer written into the contract instead of agreed to in the driveway.
Every roofing bid prices what an estimator can see, and what an estimator can see is the surface, so the true condition of the deck is unknown until the old roof is off. A well-written contract handles this in advance two ways: it states how much wood replacement is included, usually in linear feet, and it sets the rate for anything beyond that allowance. In California, extra work also requires a written change order signed before that work begins, and it has to spell out the scope, the amount added or subtracted, and the effect on the completion date. If a contractor cannot show you the wood rate before you sign, you are agreeing to a number they get to pick later.
Plan for the garage and the attic first, because tear-off shakes debris down through gaps in the old decking and anything stored under it should be covered or moved. Then think about pets, since gates open and close all day and crews arrive early, and about anything hanging on walls that shares framing with the roof. Your contractor should be handling site protection, but write down anything specific to your property and make sure it lands on the contract rather than in a conversation.
If it is not in use, take it off while the roof is off. A dish is mounted with bolts driven straight through the deck, and once the new roof is on, every one of those holes is a penetration somebody sealed around rather than decked over. If it is still in use, it needs to come down and go back up on new flashing, which is a different job. Decide before tear-off day, not while the crew is standing on the roof.
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